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|'''''Daniel's Vision of the Four Beasts'''''
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|'''''Danielin näky neljästä eläimestä ja ihmishahmoisesta olennosta'''''
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|'''''Danielin näky: Neljä petoa; Ihmisen Poika; Jumalan pyhäin valtakunta.'''''
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16 Someone who is in the field must not go back to the house for his cloak.
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4 who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.  
4 who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.  
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3 Älkää antako kenenkään millään tavoin johtaa itseänne harhaan. Ennen tuota päivää näet tapahtuu uskosta luopuminen ja ilmaantuu itse laittomuus ihmishahmossa, kadotuksen ihminen.  
3 Älkää antako kenenkään millään tavoin johtaa itseänne harhaan. Ennen tuota päivää näet tapahtuu uskosta luopuminen ja ilmaantuu itse laittomuus ihmishahmossa, kadotuksen ihminen.  
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|A 7D [[Glossary#Bidirectional reflectance distribution function|bidirectional reflectance distribution function]] model that is projected into 2D can be freely made to whatever shape and appearance. Hollywood films have been full of projected "monsters" for a longer time than '''[[digital look-alikes]]''' have existed. The reason for this is that our brains are very adept at noticing if something that pretends to look like an image of a human contains even the slightest errors, which leads to that the product does not pass human testing, whereas for the "monsters" we know intuitively, that it under no circumstances is genuine.
|colspan="2"|A 7D [[Glossary#Bidirectional reflectance distribution function|bidirectional reflectance distribution function]] model that is projected into 2D can be freely made to whatever shape and appearance. Hollywood films have been full of projected "monsters" for a longer time than '''[[digital look-alikes]]''' have existed. The reason for this is that our brains are very adept at noticing if something that pretends to look like an image of a human contains even the slightest errors, which leads to that the product does not pass human testing, whereas for the "monsters" we know intuitively, that it under no circumstances is genuine.


The blasphemous names written in the heads probably refer to that people call the beast by many names, because they have not yet realized, that we should not use the names of the beast, but we should develop a '''term''' for it so that we can talk about them and to discuss how we can oppose the terror inflicted by the beasts and to help the humankind to come through this tedious situation into which we have been sinking since the early 00's. This term is digital look-alike. It is not just an another name more for the beasts for it is a term that answers two questions: "What?" Answer: "look-alike"  and "What kind?" Answer: "digital".
The blasphemous names written in the heads probably refer to that people call the beast by many names, because they have not yet realized, that we should not use the names of the beast, but we should develop a '''term''' for it so that we can talk about them and to discuss how we can oppose the terror inflicted by the beasts and to help the humankind to come through this tedious situation into which we have been sinking since the early 00's. This term is digital look-alike. It is not just an another name more for the beasts for it is a term that answers two questions: "What?" Answer: "look-alike"  and "What kind?" Answer: "digital".
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''' The beast has never been alive, so it does not care about a "deadly" wound '''


The beast has never been alive, so it simply does not need to care if it had received a "deadly wound".
The beast has never been alive, so it simply does not need to care if it had received a "deadly wound".
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|colspan="2"|People bow evil as they do not understand how that beast has mislead them. A common way of bowing to the beast is to hurt people, who have had the lousy luck, that their appearance has been cunningly and covertly been stolen and given to yet another new beast.
People bow evil as they do not understand how that beast has mislead them. A common way of bowing to the beast is to hurt people, who have had the lousy luck, that their appearance has been cunningly and covertly been stolen and given to yet another new beast.


::''“Who is like the beast? Who can fight against it?”''
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Producing a good answer is quite difficult, because deleting all the copies seems an impossible task for the humankind, since no-one else, but God has access to all the computer systems with privileges sufficient to delete. Thus we cannot with our own means destroy all the copies of all the beasts, nor can we destroy all the components needed for the animation pipelines to make them, but there is something we could do: to bring the beasts into the light of day and to inform people about the situation, until everyone knows what has been going on for a longer while now. This information gives individual and collective resilience against the destructive effect of the beasts, though comprehending this issue causes significant psychological discomfort and nausea.
Producing a good answer is quite difficult, because deleting all the copies seems an impossible task for the humankind, since no-one else, but God has access to all the computer systems with privileges sufficient to delete. Thus we cannot with our own means destroy all the copies of all the beasts, nor can we destroy all the components needed for the animation pipelines to make them, but there is something we could do: to bring the beasts into the light of day and to inform people about the situation, until everyone knows what has been going on for a longer while now. This information gives individual and collective resilience against the destructive effect of the beasts, though comprehending this issue causes significant psychological discomfort and nausea.
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==== Revelation 13:5-6 ====
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''' Sound-like-anyone capability is given to the beast and it starts to blaspheme '''
|colspan="2"|''' Sound-like-anyone capability is given to the beast and it starts to blaspheme '''


A little while after the digital look-alikes passed human testing with success humankind created technological solutions with which anybody's naked voice can be stolen from a short sample and to make '''[[digital sound-alikes]]''', which are difficult, if not impossible to distinguish from a genuine recording of that person's voice, and to put those digital sound-alikes to say anything at will. Known examples are [[w:Adobe Voco]] and [[w:Google]] [[w:DeepMind]] [[w:WaveNet]]. These software can also form [[w:phonemes]] which were not present in the training material.
A little while after the digital look-alikes passed human testing with success humankind created technological solutions with which anybody's naked voice can be stolen from a short sample and to make '''[[digital sound-alikes]]''', which are difficult, if not impossible to distinguish from a genuine recording of that person's voice, and to put those digital sound-alikes to say anything at will. Known examples are [[w:Adobe Voco]] and [[w:Google]] [[w:DeepMind]] [[w:WaveNet]]. These software can also form [[w:phonemes]] which were not present in the training material.


Digital sound-alikes blaspheme God and the place where He lives probably just by the fact that humankind made these disinformation weapons, just because it could be done and some parties funded the development work. And they blaspheme those who are in heaven and the reason for this seems simple: The dead cannot defend according to the so-called "normie rules", whereas a living human can simply say "I did not say that", if the digital sound-alike attack is revealed to him.
Digital sound-alikes blaspheme God and the place where He lives probably just by the fact that humankind made these disinformation weapons, just because it could be done and some parties funded the development work. And they blaspheme those who are in heaven and the reason for this seems simple: The dead cannot defend according to the so-called "normie rules", whereas a living human can simply say "I did not say that", if the digital sound-alike attack is revealed to him.
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|colspan="2"|Even a holy person will find it pretty tedious to stay in functional shape at all, if people mock and hurt him, just because they are under industrially produced delusions having let '''those enter''' self either via the '''eyes''' by watching synthetic terror porn or by his '''ears''' by listening to people gossiping about what is said to have been seen on the Internet.
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::''"Whoever is meant to be captured will surely be captured;"''  
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At first it would appear that the beasts cannot be imprisoned, for all it is not possible for a human to find all the copies due to e.g. that Internet was designed to route around nuked nodes (you may alternatively replace the word "nuclear bomb" with "censorship") and that models made of humans and the filth projected onto moving images can be easily slipped through nation state borders under the protections of hard cryptography and naturally due to the fact that there are computers that are not connected to the Internet and cannot be connected to via the network.
At first it would appear that the beasts cannot be imprisoned, for all it is not possible for a human to find all the copies due to e.g. that Internet was designed to route around nuked nodes (you may alternatively replace the word "nuclear bomb" with "censorship") and that models made of humans and the filth projected onto moving images can be easily slipped through nation state borders under the protections of hard cryptography and naturally due to the fact that there are computers that are not connected to the Internet and cannot be connected to via the network.


Revelation 19:20 starts with "The beast was taken prisoner" so it perhaps could be considered "imprisoned" if it was under constant and pervasive surveillance by the [[Adequate Porn Watcher AI]].  
Revelation 19:20 starts with "The beast was taken prisoner" so it perhaps could be considered "imprisoned" if it was under constant and pervasive surveillance by the [[Adequate Porn Watcher AI (concept)]].  


::''"whoever is meant to be killed by the sword will surely be killed by the sword."'
::''"whoever is meant to be killed by the sword will surely be killed by the sword."'
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Can we add here anything but "Amen Lord Jesus Christ." ?
Can we add here anything but "Amen Lord Jesus Christ." ?
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==== Revelation 13:11-13 ====
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A little while after the first (female form) digital look-alike, somebody did a male form digital look-alike, which is this beast that arises from the earth, and from thereon the whole business went really sick.
A little while after the first (female form) digital look-alike, somebody did a male form digital look-alike, which is this beast that arises from the earth, and from thereon the whole business went really sick.
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The main manifestation of the beast is a (moving) image and the humankind already did it, so this is perhaps a bit confusing. May be to do with the observation that in the Bible it seems that the especially important things are repeated multiple times. Why here it says here that the inhabitants of the earth make an "image" in "honor" of the first beast could be to do that it was not easy to see in advance that the beast actually manifests in an image on a computer screen.


A moving image that really looks and sounds like a human truly does awaken murderousness when wielded with malice.
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A moving image that really looks and sounds like a human truly does awaken murderousness when wielded with malice.
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If the answer candidate to the question of the number of the beast in Revelation 13:18 is [[#Revelation 13:18 - explanation - 64-bit computing and 256-bit addressing|the numbers of the address spaces of 64-bit computing and 256-bit addressing]], then this refers to being unable to do commerce unless one takes a 64-bit device and connects it to the 256-bit network. If this is the case, then we clearly should '''<font color="red">not</font>''' let cash [[w:money]] status as [[w:legal tender]] be removed anytime in the future.
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If the answer candidate to the question of the number of the beast in Revelation 13:18 is [[#Revelation 13:18 - explanation - 64-bit computing and 256-bit addressing|the numbers of the address spaces of 64-bit computing and 256-bit addressing]], then this refers to being unable to do commerce unless one takes a 64-bit device and connects it to the 256-bit network. If this is the case, then we clearly should '''<font color="red">not</font>''' let cash [[w:money]] status as [[w:legal tender]] be removed anytime in the future.
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====== Revelation 13:18 - explanation - The beasts are a result of calculation ======
====== Revelation 13:18 - explanation - The beasts are a result of calculation ======
::''"count the number of the beast"'' (KJV)
::''"count the number of the beast"'' (KJV)
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The first number 2⁶⁴ is key in making the beasts and the 2nd number 2²⁵⁶ is key in distributing the beasts.
The first number 2⁶⁴ is key in making the beasts and the 2nd number 2²⁵⁶ is key in distributing the beasts.
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=== Revelation 14 ===
=== Revelation 14 ===
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|+ '''Titles / Titlings'''
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|'''''The Lamb and his People'''''
|'''''The Lamb and his People'''''
|'''''The Church Triumphant'''''
|'''''The Church Triumphant'''''
|'''''Uusi laulu Siionin vuorella'''''
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|If you've never watched porn, how could you accidentally have looked at digital look-alike porn?
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|colspan="2"|If you've never watched porn, how could you accidentally have looked at digital look-alike porn?




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All four translations do use plural "women" and both of the Finnish translations say "like virgins" and if the only woman you've been with is your wife, you ain't defiling yourself.
All four translations do use plural "women" and both of the Finnish translations say "like virgins" and if the only woman you've been with is your wife, you ain't defiling yourself.
 
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|'''''Uusi laulu Siionin vuorella'''''
|'''''Karitsa ja sata neljäkymmentä neljä tuhatta merkittyä seisovat Siionin vuorella'''''
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|Happenings here seem to be a direct continuation from [[#Revelation 13]] and all of these verses happen in the heaven.
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=== Revelation 21 (just translations) ===
=== Revelation 21 (just translations) ===
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27 And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life.
27 And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life.
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=== Revelation 22 (just translations) ===
=== Revelation 22 (just translations) ===
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21 The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen.
21 The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen.


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